..."they" as in the forces of international evil conspiring to take away YOUR personal liberty and bring in the new global NANNY STATE. Well they failed today, huh? Run 1871, formerly know as run 1868, was 8.6k according to Mr. Garmin hand-held, but sensible old Mrs. Garmin on the pc lopped a full kilometer off that, so with the 7 F's and single X the long run was probably only a shade over 6k. Felt longer? well, that would have been the 350m total ascent kicking in and the maximum height reached (at the 4th 360) of 285m taking its toll. The short run was about 3.5k and featured some rugged sections inspired by Mr. Garmin who successfully enabled the two runs to link up despite being separated by 100m of impenetrable shiggy, as well as some great walking trails and a couple of waterfalls to boot. Both runs benefited from the beer stop which gave the hares a good excuse for not sweeping, for which Harram (that sad old decrepit dog) was particularly grateful, having been dragged round 2 recces, the long run lay and the short run lay as well. I think she deserves 2 hare credits for that! The short run ate it in about 25 minutes to the beer stop, The long run took their time and were there in about an hour longer. Sad, old and decrepit?